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August 18, 2012
Talking to DR. Mark Eberhard from CDC about the
CDC-Morgellons-Report
Read below some short excerpts from
my friendly (even if it doesn`t look like) conducted discussion (7-8
minutes) a few days ago with Dr. Mark Eberhard
Director of the Division of Parasitic Diseases and Malaria (DPDM) Center for Disease
Control (CDC) Center for Global Health (CGH). To keep it short I left out some of his
answers praising himself and the good work of the glorious CDC, and some other small talk.
He took some time to listen to me, maybe because he knew me already, or because he was
just curious that someone called him from Germany. Who knows?
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Marc Neumann: Concerning the Morgellons report by the CDC, there were
however a lot of protests and many inconsistencies, in particular regarding the
recognition or correct representation of this illness. Your name is mentioned also here in
Germany in different articles, as allegedly you and some others represent this report in a
way that makes most Morgellons patients look like delusional parasitosis patients
(patients imagining parasites under or on the skin).
I would like to mention at this point
that this does not reflect my own opinion after I read this CDC report correctly. I think
somebody just wants to misunderstand this report purposely and intentionally spread the
opposite what this report actually reflects. Or is it perhaps just a matter of the vast
information flow offered on the Internet, or the “copy+paste mentality” and the
common laziness or inability to read and understand what is written somewhere. This could
be actually a modern cognitive illness (perhaps ADHD?) caused by
the Internet, and it will make us even more stupid than we were before then! Many cannot
use their brain anymore due to this information overload!
Dr. Mark Eberhard: (Laughs...) Maybe, but it is so not completely correct
that we would have maintained such a thing in the report--we left everything open ended,
without branding people as definitely delusional.
Marc Neumann: Well, it is out there now, however, and, unfortunately,
leads to the diverse opinions of some incorrect and indifferent physicians and lousy story
hunters, who take only one side of the story like lemmings, without, for instance, having
had direct contact with any actual Morgellons patients and treating physicians to gather
real facts.
Dr. Mark Eberhard: I really feel sorry that something went wrong or been
abused somehow due to some misinterpretations of the CDC report. It is clear to us that
there is something going on actually, but as yet, we simply do not know clearly what the
actual cause of this Morgellons illness could be.
Marc Neumann: Well, the fact is, that now after publication of this
superficial report, all the debunkers state exactly the opposite, because the CDC left all quite uncertain in this report,
right? And this uncertainty may mean for most readers: We do not have clear findings, thus
patients are probably all delusional and that there is no need to treat them.
Dr. Mark Eberhard: As I have said, I feel sorry for these misinterpretations.
If we would know the actual cause, we would describe it all differently. Actually, we
relied mainly on the investigation of Kaiser Permanente.
Marc Neumann: You do not know what's causing it, but aren`t you ignoring
some related facts too? I think you will be aware already that many world-wide sufferers
kill themselves because they received no real medical assistance, and now more than ever
Morgellons is being ignored due to this unclear CDC statement, which sounds a little bit
ironic to me, as approximately two-thirds of all Morgellons patients, including myself,
also suffer from proven Lyme disease. Do you know this fact either, or do you want to
ignore this intentionally too?
At least these patients should not be
rejected by physicians and should be tested and treated for Lyme disease, independently of
the Morgellons syndrome. With this general ignorance of facts, even regular Lyme patients
have to fight daily and are very often declared as simulators, fakers or hypochondriacs by
this miserable and inhumane medical system. It all just has to do with money. No money
actually means, you get no further help and you have to die! How much is a human life
actually still worth in the U.S. nowadays? Ten cents, or even less? On the top of that,
how can one assign an investigation to this corrupt Kaiser Permanente hospital chain? It might be the same as asking Satan for support then!
Dr. Mark Eberhard: However, the case is closed for the CDC at the moment,
that's all I can say about it right now.
Marc Neumann: Come on, what's closed? Nevertheless it still has to do
with human lives, does it not? I mean, your own citizens and taxpayers, whom are left on
their own with this illness. Do you know that the whole world looks on the CDC report, and
this does not give a good picture to the rest of the world. Especially that the U.S. wants
to refuse medical assistance to its own citizens suffering from Lyme or Morgellons
disease. With due respect, we are talking meanwhile about a pandemic, if you don't know
this yet either! I do not call you just because of a local hay fever outbreak, and I just
don't run my site for the past seven years now to support U.S. and worldwide sufferers
just for pure fun. This would however, actually be the task of the medical system, don't
you think so?
Dr. Mark Eberhard: I can understand that and thank you for your good work,
but nevertheless I must repeat myself and say that the case is closed for the CDC.
Marc Neumann: Sorry, but not for me, and I do believe that huge dark
clouds will cross the CDC in the future, as the case is still not closed for many! Does
the CDC have a real interest in clearing this case up at all and to help their fellow
citizens? Anyway, is the CDC still paid by tax funds or not? The CDC even promotes with
this unclear report those who are believing in all these wild conspiracy theories, like
Chemtrails, Nano-robots, Illuminati and population reduction, etc. After all, do you
believe in those?
Dr. Mark Eberhard: No, definitely not! (Both laugh...)
Marc Neumann: But anyway, after the Tuskegee Syphilis
experiments in Alabama and Guatemala, which were led even by the U.S. health authorities which
have been abused African-American and Central-American men as human lab rats, I could
actually be more predisposed to believe in a newer, improved and quiet variant of a
spirochete-based bioweapon as result of this study! For what was this Tuskegee experiment
led 40 years long, then? Where and which are the actual results of these despicable
studies?
Isn`t it a shame for US, that these
poor people have never, ever received medicines and even the local physicians were
threatened with license withdrawal, if anyone would try to help these people. Isn`t it
precisely the same story running now also with Morgellons sufferers, not anymore locally
but globally? Is this all pure coincidence, or the already long-known procedure of U.S.
authorities, in order to suppress the truth in the usual stupid way, just by ignoring and
manipulating everything?
Dr. Mark Eberhard: In addition I cannot say anything about…
Marc Neumann: Really? In order to remain on solid, factual ground, let
me directly give you a few pieces of information, since indirectly the CDC quite
frequently visits my Internet site. The fact is, nevertheless, that we have
epidemiologically, morphologically and biologically many similarities to a kind of fungus
or fungus-like protozoan infection. Quite similar to what arises in California and
southern U.S. states with fungi, such as Coccidioides immitis and Microsporum
canis.
Even with the Coccidioides
immitis fungus, scientists have found new
mutations of it never known before.
Usually known as a fungus, where its hyphae always roll themselves together into spherical
shapes (cocci). According to old scientific studies, this fungus cannot create long thin
hyphae in the host body, but under certain stress conditions, they found out in the latest results that these and other fungi really can. Why does the CDC not do any
research in the direction of such fungi at least?
Dr. Mark Eberhard: These sort of fungal infections are well known to me, but
we do not as yet have evidence connecting these and other types of infections to
Morgellons disease.
Marc Neumann: Allright, but it is more than evident that it must be a
kind of fungus, perhaps a mutated form, causing Morgellons. In addition,
epidemiologically, is the spreading caused either due to global warming, or is it because
of a massive forced usage of fungi and other pathogens used as biological insecticides embedded in hollow fibers, which have been used for approximately 30 years now to
fight fire-ants and all kinds of crop pests in the U.S.? Even ticks and mosquitos are now
fought with such biological insecticides in forest and meadow areas. What happens with the
pathogens that these pests carry, if they get eaten up by such fungi which spread
uncontrolled later? In addition every new technology, as these fibers with embedded
pathogens, can be used also by the military or any other evil fringe groups to spread
diseases, right?
Dr. Mark Eberhard: No comment...
Marc Neumann: Furthermore, it cannot be as the CDC states, that this Morgellons illness is not contagious. How can all concerned have been infected then. What kind of research has
the CDC actually done? Besides, if one ignores the delusional theory now, the question
must be, why so many mammals have been infected, and why even a worldwide spread could
occur! Myself and others have investigated that over many years, but the CDC did not!
Dr. Mark Eberhard: (praising the work of the CDC, bla bla, bla...)
Marc Neumann: Anyway, do you have any idea at all, what harm the CDC has
caused with this unprofessional statement? It means gross negligence or deliberate bodily
injury directly caused by the CDC. I think, there will be many more complaints and
lawsuits to follow! All family members, who have a weaker immune system, from the child up
to the parents and grandparents can be infected, and also neighbors and pets, can be
affected by it! Mainly these fungal spores are actually spread by direct body contact. If
you are too weak, you will lose!
Dr. Mark Eberhard: Well, according to Kaiser Permanente and other
researchers, it doesn`t seem to be contagious!
Marc Neumann: What? Sincerely, I cannot understand this careless
attitude of the CDC which drives many humans into financial and physical ruin! Even if I
can understand, to some extent, this stance for political and economical reasons, that the
CDC may never admit that there are these and other contagious diseases present at this
time in the U.S. at all (excluding now bed bugs in New York and Lyme disease epidemics in 49 U.S. states). Just because no more tourists would visit the U.S. or goods from the
U.S. would be rejected by other countries, as it happened already with beef that was
contaminated with BSE (Bovine Spongiform Encephalitis, or Mad Cow Disease). Korea and other countries
nevertheless sent back such supplies, did they not? Are U.S. citizens at least informed at
all about the fact that BSE is still present in the U.S.?
Dr. Mark Eberhard: Hmm, I would not like to say anything about such claims,
but yes indeed, the CDC has to be careful about such statements anyway.
Marc Neumann: Well, the truth was always too precious, so it must remain
hidden behind a lie, even ignoring human lives, right?
Dr. Mark Eberhard: No comment...
Marc Neumann: To finish this call, if I would send you from this living
organic liquid (protoplasm), which is actually embedded in inorganic hollow fibers first
(polymer-carriers), the extracted DNA by simple means, would the CDC do any DNA sequence
then to find more out? Do you have any interest at all in it, since the CDC allegedly
still could not find anything that causes this disease?
Dr. Mark Eberhard: What, DNA? No (inaudible), I must unfortunately break the
discussion off now, sorry.
Marc Neumann: Now, well, thanks anyway for your time and the informative
discussion and bye, bye.
References:
http://www.veria.com/healing/morgellons-disease-cdc-says-morgellons-disease-sufferers-are-delusional
Mr Neumann Please call or email me! faithcontractingservice@gmail.com or 570-952-5231.
ReplyDeleteThis is about morgellons and i have without a doubt proof this disease is real! Or man made Ai.. etc. I have proof to shut up every doctor that lied to me and im gonna shock the world when they watch the videos i took as my body ripped open screamin in pain and blood flowing down my arms! This is not bogus info!! Thank you God Bless